1992 - Ghetto Gospel : Fragile (The Kidz / WATM / Strictly 4 leftovers)

  • Leftover tracks recorded from late 91 until late 92, for a second solo album initially titled 2Pacalypse II, then Troublesome 21, Point The Finga... and for various side projects : The Kidz/Sista project titled Ghetto Gospel and the W.A.T.M. (Mopreme & Mouse Man) project titled State of Emergency.
  • These sessions don't include tracks from the Promo album Troublesome 21 rejected by Interscope in August 92.

The Wycked (Mopreme), 2Pac & Mouse Man

### There are many tracklists for a second solo album and very few for Ghetto Gospel Kidz/Havenotz/Sista Named Mista and no one for W.AT.M. album. The first disc of this compilation does not follow a specific one but gathers songs recorded before the Troublesome 21 album being purposed to Interscope and rejected in mid 92. The second one follows "Point the Finga" tracklist and is completed with other songs recorded after Troublesome 21 and before the final mix of Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z.. ###

Fragile / State of Emergency - Listen in YT

1. Holler If Ya Hear Me (New York Rough Mix)
2. Don't Call Me, Bitch (Lars DAT Version)
3. Point The Finga (Alternate Mixdown) - snippet
4. Black Cotton feat. Mouse Man **
5. Ghetto Gospel (Kidz Version) feat. Jesse The Kid - snippet *
6. Brothers In The Pen feat. Wycked & Mouse Man **
7. If My Homie Calls (Turbo R&B Mix)
8. Flex feat. Thoro Headz
9. Ghost - whizz og vibe/amarog1 og vibe *
10. Papa'z Song (Kidz Version) feat. Mopreme - snippet *
11. Guess Who's Back (Alternate Mixdown) - snippet
12. The Hell Raiser
13. Strugglin' (Alternate Mixdown) - snippet
14. Deadly Styles (Freestyle) feat. Treach & Grand Puba

Bonus tracks :
15. Big Time feat. Live Squad ***
16. Broken Branches feat. W.A.T.M. - snippet **
17. WATM (by W.A.T.M.) **
 
The Remix Album
 
1. Keep Ya Head Up (Madukey Remix) feat. Dave Hollister
2. I Saw Your Girl (Shock G Remix)
3. You Don't Wanna Battle (I Thought U Knew Remix) feat. Ryan D
4. Let Knowledge Drop (Force One Remix) feat. Ray Luv
5. Dayz of a Criminal (Klark Gable Remix)
6. Panther Power (Female Chorus Mix) feat. Ray Luv & Tasha Lambert
7. Same Song (All Around The World Remix) feat. Digital Underground)
8. If My Homie Calls (Turbo Street Version)
9. Static (Extended Club Mix)
10. Static (Silent Mic Instrumental)

* reference or tracks from The Kidz unreleased Ghetto Gospel project.
** from Wycked & The Mouse lost album titled State of Emergency.
Mocedes aka Wycked also had a solo project titled I'm Too Big 4 The Small Shit.
*** from Live Squad's Game of Survival shelved album.

Another side project lead by 2Pac was the Thoro Headz album that could have included "Flex" (but maybe just a 2 tracks single then, probably more advanced in late 93 with "Runnin'" and "Introduced 2 The Game"). Known unleaked song is "Wanna G" with a long intro by 2Pac.

Ghetto Gospel with The Kidz

In late 91, 2Pac planned to record an album written by him and rapped by some kids around him. He recorded references of the songs for helping them to rap the texts. The group was simply called The Kidz. In the end of 92, they eventually changed their name to The Havenotz. In late 93, in Thug Life Volume One first idea of the project, 2Pac still intended to have them as guests (cf. Honor Among Thugz).

The Kidz were : Jesse, John, Arrington & Stanley

The Sista named Mista (very probably Yonnie Stokes who appeared in Dayz of a Criminal EP project and in 2Pacalypse Now) was not in the group but was close to them when the project was on. And 2Pac also recorded reference tracks for her (presumably "Don't U Trust Me").

Infos about The Kidz project sometimes titled "Nothin' Gold" or simply "The Kidz", by Banned of Bomb1st forum : 
Most of these unleaked songs have 2Pac featured, have been written by him and have unleaked reference track for the Kidz where 2Pac is doing all verses :
  • Streets Got Ya Babies = re-recorded as "Ghost" in late 92 - beginning of 93 
  • Lovely Daze = uses "Lovely Daze" sample by Jazzy Jeff & Fresh Prince (?)  - Snippet available
  • Leave Us Kidz Alone = "Stop the life you save may be your own, leave us kids alone... you pushed us to the edge and its on" 
  • Ghetto Gospel = re-recorded in second half of 92 for Very Special Christmas. 2 versions : "MTV Version" with 2Pac only doing the first verse ; alternate is a duet by 2Pac and Jesse the Kid.
  • Bedtime Stories ="These are my bedtime stories, come listen to my bedtime stories...since my moms and my pops would ignore me, i had to tell myself a bedtime story" 
  • X,Y, Z (Tha Kidz Song) = 2Pac is note featured and only has reference vocal take
  • Dopefiends Diner (Kidz Version) = initially from 2Pacalypse Now leftovers given to Kidz 
  • Papa's Song = re-recorded for Troublesome 21. Is the so called "Da Bastard's Mix" given as a b-side for the single the original reference track for the Kidz ? or the first re-recording intended for Troublesome 21 or after ?
  • Streetlife ??

A Sister named Mysta supposed recorded songs : 
 
1. Don't Forget Where You Come From
2. For Colored Girls Only
3. Sista’z Song (reference song "Don't U Trust Me" ?)
= 2Pac only appears doing reference vocals on the Reel
4. The Power of a Woman = Pac only credited as a writer
King Pin = Unfinished beat
Outta Richtown
Don't Fuck With Mysta
Hell No (from a tracklist)
Call Me Mysta (from a tracklist)
Hear Me Though (from a tracklist)
 
Man-Man, Tupac, Mike Cooley
Mouse Man & The Wycked 

W.A.T.M. - State of Emergency

In the mid '92, 2Pac was working with his step brother Mopreme "The Wycked" Shakur aka Mocedes (future Thug Life member) and his old partner Dana "Mouse Man" Smith (from his first groups East Side Crew / Born Busy) to record a group album. They have recorded maybe 5-10 songs in the summer of 92, mainly with Truman Jefferson. "Brothers in the Pen" was the supposed single to promote the album (with "What Goes Around" included in 2Pac's second LP, cf. Troublesome 21).

It is said that in reason of a firefight where a child was killed in the crossfire (Mopreme could be one of the shooter), 2Pac got angry and Mouse Man would have fled back to his hometown. So the project has been buried. Eventually 2Pac tried to give "Brothers in the Pen" to Menace II Society OST, maybe in a remixed form with a new verse, then re-titled "Niggaz in the Pen". But 2Pac was fired of the cast and the song taken off. It is probably at that time he delivers demo tapes of his new solo project called "Thug Life" where "Troublesome" and "Niggas in the Pen" can be found as bonus tracks at the end of the tracklist after new songs (cf. Thug Life Demo Tape). Mouse Man being in a song of this Demo and Mopreme becoming a member of the group, W.A.T.M. could be seen as a Thug Life before Thug Life.

 

 

Christmas Bootleg Album - Fragile

After Interscope refused Troublesome 21 album in August of 92, 2Pac scrapped most of the songs and took back some to form a whole new project then titled "Point The Finga"

While 2Pac was recording and mixing his second solo album Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z., he eventually thought to record leftover songs in a companion promo album.

Fragile is said to have been the title of a soundtrack compilation, with various music styles.

 
 

1. August 1992. "Poin The Finga".

New songs : eponymous track, "Black Kotton" (maybe taken from W.A.T.M. album), "Pac's Theme Interlude", "Guess Who's Back", "Look 4 Me In The Whirlwind" (concept already appeared but was probably never recorded) and "Barely Breathing" (that could be a first concept for "Strugglin"). So 6 new songs (instead of "Troublesome", "Still Don't Give A Fuck", "Crooked Nigga Too", "Holler If Ya Hear Me", "Don't Call Me Bitch", "What Goes On" and "Nothing But Love" - the two late ones being just replaced by new songs, the four first being scrapped probably for being too violent.

 
 

 

2. Circa Sept. 92. "Representin". 

"Guess Who's Back" initial concept song with Thoro Heads became "Flex". 2Pac thought to incorporate a Soulja "Revenge" song as the outro but scrapped it for the new interlude "(Something) To Die 4". The old concept "5 Deadly Venoms" finally founds his final title. There are no more songs with Mouse Man and "Hellraiser" appears maybe instead of "Look 4 Me in The Whirlwind" concept.

 
 

 

3. Circa Sept. 92. Untitled "West / East".

"Pac's Theme" became the intro. The album has a "West" side and then a "East" side, like 2Pac will record Thug Life West and Thug Life East albums in 1993 and finally have "West" and "East" sides in Thug Life Volume One. before again reunite both sides in One Nation concept album. If we try to guess the other songs to finish the tracklist, we could have of course "5 Deadly Venoms", "Streetz R Deathrow", "Something 2 Die 4" as outro song. And it would still lack two songs that could be some of the three songs that will appear in the next show tracklist.

 
 

4. Circa Oct. 92. "Bootleg Christmas Album"

The project seems to be more advanced and the new solo version of "Holler if Ya Hear Me" has been recorded and planned to be a single/video. On the "show list" we could also notice the probably new recorded version of "Revenge of a Soulja" and the remix of "If My Homie Calls". So while finishing his Strictly 4 my N.I.G.G.A.Z. album, 2Pac had the idea of an exclusive "Christmas Bootleg Album" EP that could include Troublesome 21 scrapped songs and "Black Kotton" (maybe to promote the W.A.T.M. project ?).

DETAILED TRACKLIST

01. Holler If You Hear Me (New York Stretch Mix) (Demo) / Stretch
02Don't Call Me Bitch (Lars DAT Version) feat. Shock G (backing) / Lay Low
  • 1992/05 - 09 (?). Probably a remix version made for the single of Troublesome 21 album or for a B-side of Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z. after Troublesome being shelved. Considering that 2Pac wears a "Don't Call Me Bitch" T-shirt in August during the MTV interview, it means that he intended to release the song as a single. But after the album being shelved, the song totally vanished...
  • Samples : 
03. Point The Finga (Demo) / Live Squad 
  • 1992/08 (~). It is said to be the first recorded song after Interscope refused Troublesome 21 for violent content.
  • Samples :
04. Black Cotton feat. Mouse Man / Big D The Impossible
  • 1992/08/24 (?). Awfully remixed in Loyal to the Game (2004, Amaru) with Outlawz and Eminem (for a song about slavery !). The "Fragile" sample could have given the idea of the main title for the compilation of leftover tracks after  Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z. (cf. Thug Life Demo Tape). This track with Dana Mouse Man, his first hip hop partner, about black history, is probably the most beautiful track by the duo. 2Pac reused elements of the song for "Pain" with Stretch, one of his most beautiful rap songs.
  • Samples : 
05. Ghetto Gospel (Kidz Version) feat. Jesse The Kid / Big D The Impossible -  SNIPPET  
  • 1991/12 - 1992/08/12. Leftover track ("due to legal trouble") from A Very Special Christmas 2 (oct. 1992, A&M). Tupac re-recorded the song which was maybe just a Kidz song initially in December of 91.
  • Samples : 
06. Brothers in the Pen feat. Mouse Man & The Wycked / Truman Jefferson
  • 1992/09/27. Said to be a leftover from Menace II Society OST which could have been a good promotion to WATM album. In fact, maybe it is the second version of the song known as "Ni**ers in the Pen" (cf. Thug Life Demo Tape) that was aimed for the compilation... In no way it is a clean version of that song. It has been recorded months before and with a totally different Pac's verse. But it is true that 2Pac was then struggling to release his albums with violent lyrics (cf. Troublesome 21), whereas a compilation project could offer him more liberty. 
  • Samples : 
07. If My Homie Calls (Turbo R&B Mix) / Greg Beasley
  • 1992/10 (~). Unused remix, probably aimed for being a b-side of the single.
  • Samples : 
08. Flex feat. Thoro Headz (aka Dramacydal) / Big D & Majesty (Live Squad)
  • 1992/09. Released as a B-side in Holler if ya Hear Me single (1993, Interscope). It's clearly sounding like the released version of "Holler If Ya Hear Me". It is also the very first appearance of two Dramacydal/Outlawz members : Mutah & Big Malc (Napoleon & Edi).
  • Sample : 
09. Ghost (The Streetz Got Ya Babies) / DJ Pooh - Eminem REMIX / Whizz OG Vibe / AmaroG1 OG Vibe
  • 1992/11 (?). Remixed in Resurrection OST (2003, Amaru). It is the 2Pac's re-recorded version of  "The Streetz Got Your Babiez", song supposedly written for The Kidz and that would have been recorded around the end of 91 / beginning of 92 (?). It is said that this 2Pac version has many parts with Souljah's voice (so it could have been recorded later in 1993 for the Thug Life projects).

10. Papa'z Song (The Kidz Version) feat. The Wycked / Stretch

  • 1991/09 - 1992 (?) (new mix). It has been said that it could be an earlier version than the Striclty 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z. song but it is presented as a remix in the single. This has no singing chorus by Poppi, only scratches. With an effect similar to the Soulja's voice, Tupac imitates the father's voice. 
  • Samples : 
11. Guess Who's Back (Demo) / Akshun & Special Ed - SNIPPET
  • 1992/08 (?). The song was initially supposed to feature The Thoro Headz and is then replaced by "Flex" with them before being finally included in retail album instead of that one but as a solo song. Akshun will also produce "Open Fire" for 2Pac (cf. Mr. Middle Finger / Out on Bail).
  • Samples :
12. The Hell Raiser / Live Squad
13. Strugglin' (Demo) feat. Live Squad / Live Squad - SNIPPET
  • 1992/09 (~).
  • Samples : 
    • The Soul Searchers - "Ashley's Roadchip" (drumline)
    • Eric B. & Rakim - "Paid In Full" (vocals : "Stick up kid", "don't nothing move but the money")
14. That's the Way It Is (Interlude) / Big D The Impossible (?)
  • 1991-1992 (?). Nothing is known about this interlude made with elements of "Changes". Is it an original thing or a fanmade ? The end doesn't seem to be taken to another song...
BONUS TRACKS :

15. Deadly Venoms (Freestyle) feat. Treach (Naughty By Nature) & Grand Puba (Brand Nubian) / Black Watch
  • 1992/11 (?). Probably from late "92" as said by Grand Puba, around the time of the recording of "5 Deadly Venoms" for Striclty 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z.. Considering the video, it has been said that 2Pac didn't like Grand Puba's rap, but in fact he was planning to invite him for One Nation sessions in 1996...

16. Big Time feat. Live Squad / Live Squad

  • 1992/07. Originally recorded for Live Squad's Game of Survival album (you can hear the beginning of an interlude of it at the end of the song). There are two known remixes called "Live Squad Remix", one maybe from 93-95 and the E-Money Bags version from 1997-2000.
  • Samples : 
17. Broken Branches feat. Mopreme / Lay Law (?) -  SNIPPET 
  • 1992/05 (~). Track taken from the scrapped album from Wycked An The Mouse, State of Emergency. Maybe recorded at the same period than other WATM/Truman Jefferson songs, around August of 92. But the song could have been recorded earlier considering it appears in "32 Bottles 2 Ghetto Heaven" soundtrack handwritten project tracklist in June of 92... So it could be produced by Lay Law and not by Truman Jefferson. 

18. Wycked & The Mouse (by W.A.T.M.) feat. Stretch (backing) & 2Pac (speaking) / Big D The Impossible (?), Truman Jefferson (?)

  • 1992/09/27 (?). Leaked by Banned from Bomb1st forum. The song is the anthem song from the shelved WATM's album State of Emergency. The chorus interpolates Boogie Down Productions "Stop the violence" with : "One two three, the crew is called BDP Wycked and the Mouse".
  • Samples : 
 
THE REMIX ALBUM
 

01. Keep Ya Head Up (Madukey Remix) feat. Dave Hollister / Lea Reis & Moe Doe
  • 1992/04 - 1993 (?). From Keep Ya Head Up (12'') (1993, October 28). This remix has probably been made in mid 1993 for the single, but it could also be an earlier mix produced for Point The Finga sessions or for the early Thug Life soundtrack project (cf. Thug Life Demo Tape). This said, the other Madukey mixes are more likely 94 so there is a low probability.
02. U Don't Wanna Battle (I Thought U Knew Remix) feat. Ryan D (51.50 Illegally Insane) & Popcorn (chorus) / DJ Klark Gable
  • 1991-1992 (originally recorded in 1990). Released in the Ryan D/51.50 Illegally Insane's album of 1992 Game People Play (but only in the 1999 reedition as a hidden bonus track). This is a remixed version of the battle song "I Thought U Knew" he recorded with his old partner Ryan D of One Nation Emcees. 
  • Samples : 
03. Let Knowledge Drop (Force One Network Mix) feat. Ray Luv / Chopmaster J & Darrell Savage (?)
  • 1991-1992 (?). Remix probably made for Force One Network Chopmaster's first album project.
04. I Saw Your Girl (Shock G Remix) / Shock G (?)
  • 1992 (?). Is it a real remix from that time ? and really made by Shock G himself ?
05. Dayz of a Criminal (Klark Gable Remix) / DJ Klark Gable
  • 1991-1992 or 1995 (?), remix from a 1990 Kendrick Wells production. Unofficially published in The Here After (1999, ZYX). Is it a real remix from the old times by Klark Gable from One Nation Emcees & 51.50 Illegally Insane (like he seems to have remixed "U Don't Wanna Battle"), or a later remix by Hitworks (but there is another version that sounds more modern) ?
06. Panther Power (Female Chorus) feat. Ray Luv & Tasha Lambert / Chopmaster J & DJ Fuze (?)
  • 1991-1992 (?). In comparison to the Lost Tapes version, this one adds new elements that fit more to Force One Network remix project.
  • Samples :
    • Kool & The Gang - "Jungle Jazz" (drumline)
    • Public Enemy - "Rebel Without A Pause" (vocals : "panther power") 
07. If My Homie Calls (Turbo Street Version) / Greg Beasley
  • 1992/10 (~ new vocals, new beat). The single If My Homie Calls has been released in February of 92 but this remix/re-recorded version (new vocals or altered take - 2Pac says "92") was recorded later. It appears in a handwritten paper among a list of video songs for the forthcoming album (on side of a tracklist for the Christmas Bootleg album EP). But it could also be intended for another project like Ghetto Gospel compilation or for why not for a remix album... In 92, 2Pac often thought to record/release follow up to 2Pacalypse songs ("Revenge of a Lunatic" - which was in fact the first -, "Crooked Nigga 2", "Revenge of a Souljah", "Trapped '92", "Still Don't Give A Fuck"...) and remixed versions of some old songs like "Uplift The Race/Panther Power", "Static"... Beasley is known for some remixes for Zapp, Public Enemy ("Party For Your Right to Fight" Metromixx) or Ziggy Marley.

08. Same Song (Around The World Mix) feat. Digital Underground / CJ Mackintosh
  • 1991/01 (?). Available in some versions of Digital Underground's This Is An E.P. Release (1991, Tommy Boy) or "Same Song" single.
  • Samples : 
09. Static (Extended Club Remix) / Chopmaster J & Willi Mac (Force One Network)
  • 1991-1992 (?). Force One Network remix, probably initially aimed to be the first single of Force One Network album. In reason of Chopmaster J's house firestorm, the song will be only released in 1997 for the second album-compilation of the group : Soul Force Network II (1997, Blue Dolphin).
  • Samples :
    • Digital Underground - "Same Song" (vocals : "2Pac go ahead and rock this")  
10. Static (Silent Mic Instrumental) / Chopmaster J & Willi Mac (Force One Network)
  • 1991-1992. Released in 1997 in The Remixes - A Tupac Shakur Story. Force One Network remix instrumental, probably aimed to be a single for Force One Network first album.
  • Samples :
    • Digital Underground - "Same Song" (vocals : "2Pac go ahead and rock this")  
 

Remains unleaked (or unfortunately unrecorded ?) :

Love ya Future / Shock G (recorded circa June for Troublesome 21 but finally scrapped) - confirmed
Backstabbaz Original by Big D (end of 91), remix by DJ Daryl (March of 92) - confirmed
 
Underground Funk feat. Digital Underground - ??
My Suicide Note - ??
Say No 2 Fame - ??
Oaktown Niggas feat. Richie Rich, Too Short & Pooh Man / Ant Banks - ?? --> Let Them Thangs Go ??
Look 4 Me in The Whirlwind / Paris --> The Hell Raiser ?? 
Check Yo Self --> Gaffled Like That ??
Mo'Niggas feat. Spice 1, The Govenor, Browski / DJ Daryl --> Let Them Thangs ?? 
Barely Breathing feat. Live Squad --> Strugglin'












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