- Jan. - Sept. 1995 : project of a Me Against The World lost tracks compilation album to make people wait until 2Pac would be freed and able to record new material.
- Firstly titled "B-Sides", it then became a project of "Album IV" with the title "When I Get Free : 92-96 Lost Trax", "R U Still Down", "When I Get Free produced by Dr. Dre", and finally "R U Still Down" again, before being merged into the project of a new album titled "When I Get Free" when 2Pac knew he was about to be freed. After a few days of recording at Death Row the album was still titled "When I Get Free"... but only two songs of the compilation will be re-recorded.
- Sources : DAT #PO781746, handwritten tracklists.
#### - OK, the contain of the further state of the project was leaked... But all tracks here have been taken untouched from older sequences and were supposed to receive a fresh new mix if 2Pac would have decided to finalize the project... so the best thing could be to give new fanmade/professional mixes/blunts in the vibe of Daz/Dre and other planned producer work... GIVE US IDEAS TO REMIX/REMAKE ALL THESE TRACKS TO ACCOMPLISH THE KIND OF PROJECT 2PAC WANTED. ####
R U Still Down '95 : Lost Tracks
- My Block (The Show Alternate Mix) feat. Richie Rich (backing)
- Better Dayz Remix - Amerikkka Eatz Itz Young feat. Young Lay, Ray Luv & Mac Mall
- Out On Bail (No Intro) feat. AB Money
- Wonda Why They Call U Bitch (Original) feat. Natasha Walker (speaking)
- Thugz Get Lonely Too (Gigolos Mix) feat. Macadoshis (chorus)
- Wizzatz OG VIbe - Where Do We Go From Here feat. Y?N-Vee
- Nothing To Lose (Short Mix) feat. Natasha Walker
- Hellrazor (Stretch Version) feat. Stretch (hook)
- R U Still Down Remix - When I get Free (Chorus Version) feat. Felony (chorus)
- My Only Fear of Death (Short Mix)
- High Til I Die (Body Mix)
- Wizzatz OG VIbe - Hold On Be Strong feat. Stretch & DJ Choo (scratching)
- Wizzatz OG VIbe - Sucka 4 Love feat. G-Money
- R U Still Down Remix - R U Still Down feat. Natasha Walker
- Wizzatz OG VIbe
95-09-13 DAT also includes When I Get Free (Intro), Hold On (Outro) and Bitchin' (Interlude). The two last have their vocals included in "Hold On Be Strong" and in "Death Around The Corner" released in Me Against The World. So this DAT was probably waiting for a new mix, way more than just "Hold On" and "Hell Razor", but maybe for all tracks.
Track 2 from Stay True.
Like we can see (in bold), only 3 mixes could - eventually - have been made strictly made for that compilation... 2Pac also wanted to have "Hellrazor", "My Only Fear of Death" and eventually "Nothing To Lose" remixed. Firstly respectively by Battlecat, Khayree and Warren G, and then only the two first by Daz (until the project being shelved.
In another handwritten paper, probably only at the moment where he signed with Death Rown, 2Pac wrote "produced by Dr. Dre". But it is doubtful that 2Pac really thought to have the whole album remixed by him...
A perfect move would be to purpose a whole compilation of remixes in the vibe of DJ Battlecat, Khayree, Warren G, Daz and Dr. Dre (or blunts). We could also add Moe-Z, Tony Pizarro, Easy Mo Bee, Soulshock, Mike Mosley...
TIMELINE
1. c. Dec. 94 - Jan. 95. Album IV + B-Sides + Greatest Hits EP.
2Pac tried the title "Hard 2 Kill" for his Me Against The World album in December 94. Here we are supposedly a little later and tracklist and title of Me Against The World are probably fixed (cf. F.T.W.) and the album more or less ready to be released (March 14). So 2Pac is already starting to conceive a follow up to the album with new concepts.
The B-Sides compilation companion to the forthcoming album includes "I Wonder If Heaven's Got A Ghetto", already published as a B-Side to Keep Ya Head Up single, leftover track from the 1992 shelved album Troublesome 21. It also have "What U Won't Do" but it could be more likely the 94 "Sucka 4 Love" version.
"Thug Style" won't make the final cut (eventually given to the Volume 2 : Lost Tracks compilation, aka Makaveli 6 Bootleg, cf. Honor Among Thugz / Exodus) and "Throw Ya Hands" is probably already planned to be given to Pump Ya Fist compilation (released in April 11) but it could work as a promotion for the album, planned to be released later that year.
A strange omission is "Out On Bail" which was removed from the tracklist of Me Against The World right after "Hard 2 Kill" tracklist, so could easily find a place here.
The planned "Greatest Hits EP" compilation indicates that 2Pac knew he would be in prison for a time and that these two compilation projects would occupy the market waiting for a new project.
2. Circa Feb. - April 95 (?). (Album IV) When I Get Free 92-96 Lost Trax.
Planned to be released the 14th of November 14th 1995. Now 2Pac has been sentenced (the 7th of February), and he knows he won't get out of prison before at least 1.5 years (until 4.5 years...), so 2Pac sees his Lost Tracks compilation as his forthcoming album IV (and not as a B-Sides compilation anymore).
This tracklist still has "Open Fire" (probably dropped because of his lyrics against the police...) and "Can't Turn Back" (was he thinking to have Young Hollywood aka Felony replacing Black Jack's Young Akayser verse ? is there any unknown version ? - maybe he finally gave the song to Black Jack who produced the thing and who will also give a verse only at that time by his member Akayser), "Thug Style" and the 92 track "Don't Call Me Bitch" from the shelved album Troublesome 21 (both given to Volume 2 Lost Tracks compilation project, aka Makaveli 6 Bootleg).
At that time, 2Pac already thought to remix tracks originally produced by Stretch (we saw that he scratched all Stretch things from "Me Against The World" on his last tracklists, probably in the beginning of 95 - cf. F.T.W.). Here we have the interesting ideas of Khayree remixing "Hellrazor", Battlecat remixing "My Only Fear of Death" and Warren G remixing "Nothing 2 Lose" ! what proves that there was no problem between him and 2Pac (consecutively to the beat of "Animosity" / "Lie 2 Kick It" given to Snoop Dogg, credited to Dr. Dre...).
3. Circa March - May of 95. R U Still Down (Album IV)
Close to the previous state, this one still have the Felony featuring for "Can't Turn Back" but 2Pac decides to scrap the song.
The album has now 12 tracks and no "Thug Style" neither "Open Fire" anymore. This could correspond to the time of the Makaveli 6 Bootleg (or almost), what includes alongside Volume 1 leftover tracks "Thug Style", "Don't Call Me Bitch", but also "Throw Ya Hands Up (Remix)" and "R U Still Down (Raise Em Up)"...
4. Circa April - June of 95. (Album IV) R U Still Down
The album is then scheduled to Jan. 96. It still has 12 tracks. You can recognize the kind of presentation of many "Euthanasia" tracklists with producers credits on side and the blue / red pens game.
This time, 2Pac wanted to have two Stretch tracks being remixed by Daz. Is this because of the work he made for "Life's So Hard" in August 94 (but he was not planned before), or 2Pac had already been approached by Suge Knight ?
If "Hell Razor" had some Stretch vocals (not the Tony Pizarro version), it is not the case for "My Only Fear of Death" and there is a Tony Pizarro remix for both (but maybe not enough remixed to not give full credits to him... Other Stretch tracks "Thugz Get Lonely Too", "Nothing To Lose" and "Wonda Why They Call U" are here credited to 2Pac, like "Where We Go From Here". All these songs are known to have been more or less co-produced by 2Pac with the help of Duane Nettlesbey (as an engineer) so maybe 2Pac was thinking to include them like that (without crediting Stretch). But 2Pac could also think to give Duane or somebody else the idea of a new sample...
5. Circa May - July 95. R U Still Down, Album IV.
2Pac went back to a 12 tracks album idea. So he dropped "Out On Bail" and "Throw Ya Hands". This could be the exact time of the Makaveli 6 Bootleg Thug Life Lost Tracks sequence (which includes "Throw Ya Hands Remix").
6. Circa June - Aug. 95. "When I Get Free, Album IV Produced by Dr. Dre".
This
tracklist is probably close to the time 2Pac decided to sign in on
Death Row. No complicated credits here, like everybody, he was dreaming
about his whole album being produced by the legendary Dr. Dre... He was
probably not conscious that Dr. Dre was already not very fan of him
since Above The Rim (cf. Out On Bail). who will finally produce nothing
for him ("California Love", "Can't C Me" and "Blunt Time" were given to
him because Suge Knight wanted to... and that was the beginning of the
end for Dr. Dre at Death Row).
"My Block" which was given to The Show soundtrack around that time (the 15th of August, but maybe already planned before) is scratched - because 2Pac was hesitating between "Throw Ya Hands" and "My Block" in a 12 tracks album.
7. Circa Aug. 95. When I Get Free / Live From The Pen IV R U Still Down.
Typical "Euthanasia" era handwritten kind of draft. Same producing credits than earlier (step 4) but 2Pac went back to a 14 tracks album to have both "Throw Ya Hands" and "My Block" and chose "Out On Bail" as a complementary 14th track.... Symbolically, this choice could correspond to the exact time 2Pac knew he would be freed soon.
The album is very close to the final sequence we have before the project was dropped (sequence usually called "Pre-Death Row Compilation"), except that we still have "Throw Ya Hands" which will be soon replaced by "Hold On, Be Strong".
8. September 13, 1995. "Unreleased Copy".
- My Block - w speaking voices during bridges
- America Eats Its Young
- Out on Bail - no intro mix
- Wonda Why They Call You Bitch - cradle tape mix
- Thugs Get Lonely Too - gigolos short mix
- Where Do We Go From Here
- Nothing To Lose - short mix with Natasha Walker
- Hell Razor - Stretch mix
- When I Get Free - young ho backing
- My Only Fear Of Death - short mix
- High Till I Die - short mix
- Hold On Be Strong
- Suka 4 Love
- R U Still Down - Shock G version
DAT #PO781746
Right before the project was dropped or more exactly merged into new album project (cf. Hard 2 Kill : Euthanasia prison drafts).
The fact we have that 14 tracks sequence with "Out On Bail" recently included, and with new "Hold On", seems to mean that absolutely nothing was made by Interscope engineers upon that project... Did 2Pac want to release the thing without any remix ? It is doubtful...
Track order of that DAT is suspect compared to the previous tracklists : "Where Do We Go" was always the outro (except first B-Sides draft), "When I Get Free" / "R U Still Down" were always the opener... It is also strange to have the guest song "Amerika Eatz Itz Young" in 2#...
9. October (~) 1995. Euthanasia (with Pre-DR compilation tracks transferred).
Like we can see, knowing he will be free soon, 2Pac decided to merge some tracks from his planned compilation into the new album he is planning to record with Death Row.
In following tracklists of that project, he will replace "R U Still Down" by "When I Get Free", drop "Where Do We Go From Here", and adopt the title of "When I Get Free" for the album, what would still be the title of the first sequence of All Eyez On Me after 3 days of recording (cf. Demo 1 : Life Goez On).
He will re-record "When I Get Free" and "Wonda Why They Call U Bitch" during these first sessions, but only the second one will remain in the released album.
- 1992 - 1995-1996 (?). Remixed in Loyal To The Game (2004, Amaru). It has been said (by Numskull) that 2Pac asked Shock G to remix the song he recorded in 92. Shock G was then working with Numskull of Luniz. At the same time, the voice sounds a bit different, older. He finally gave the song to The Govenor for his album Floss Mode in 1995 (with a beat very close to the original produced by DJ Daryl).
- Samples :
- Bill Withers & Grover Washington Jr – "Just The Two Of Us" (melody) - re-used by Cocoa Brovaz in "Wrekonize Remix"
. Don’t Make Enemies With Me (DR Remix) feat. K-Dog, Mutah, Big Malc & Young Hollywood / Stretch REMIXED by Daz (?) - OG VIBE, REMAKE
- 1994/10 - 1995-1997 (?). Released in R U Still Down (1997, Amaru). Is this Death Row remix appearing in many tracklists really exist ? Erasing the Live Squad’s part sounds as a threat towards Stretch who will be killed the 30th of November...). This song will reappear in some Outlawz Immortalz tracklists. It is said that the leaked versions we have are just OG Vibes. At the same time, the fact that Amaru released a version edited without Live Squad and Sh'Killa could indicate that such a version exists...
- Samples :
- Love Unlimited Orchestra - "Makin' Believe That It's You" (melody)
. Dear Mama (DR Remix) feat. Reggie Green & Sweet Franklin / DF Master Tee, Tony Pizarro REMIXED by Daz (?)
- 1995/?.
- Samples :
- Joe Sample - "In All My Wildest Dreams" (melody)
- The Spinners - "Sadie" (vocals interpolation)
- 1992 - 1997 (?). Fanmade mix that allows to hear the text of the first part of the song with 2Pac speaking with a normal voice - reminding that 2Pac chose to pitch his voice to express a dark evil incarnation and to mean the difference with himself...


I made my own "R U Still Down? '95 : Lost Tracks" Compilation Album. And it goes like this :
ReplyDelete▪️A-Side :
1.R U Still Down (Shock-G Version)
2.Bury Me a G (Solo Version)
3.Nothing to Lose
4.Hellrazor
5.Thugs Get Lonely Too
6.Wonda Why They Call U Bytch
7.Open Fire
8.It Hurts The Most
9.Only Fear of Death
10.Out on Bail
11.Pain
12.Runnin’ from the Police
13.Can’t Turn Back
14.Hard on a Nigga LZ
▪️B-Side :
1.R U Still Down (Raise ’em Up)
2.Hold On Be Strong
3.High ‘Til i Die (Solo)
4.Loyal to the Game
5.God Bless the Dead
6.AmeriKKKa Eats Its Young
7.Fuck All Y'all
8.Thug Style
9.When I Get Free II (Young Hollywood)
10.My Block
11.Throw Your Hands Up
12.Suka 4 Love
13.Enemies with Me
14.Hard on a Nigga (Daz Version)
I hope you like this one, and it sounds good for you?
You strangely forgot "Who do u luv ?". "It Hurts The Most" is not a solo track, eventually Thug Life & friends at the time of the compilation (Honor Among Thugz). Forgot as well Peep Game 2, Uppercut. There is as well a Pizarro versions of Nothing To Lose and Hellrazor.
DeleteAfter, the purpose was more to imagine how we could remix all these tracks.
DeleteTupac Shakur Recording Sessions Timeline (December 1992 – November 1994)
ReplyDeleteTHUG LIFE (Original Sessions)
December 1992 – May 1993
December 1992
- Niggas in the Pen (Thug Life)
- Thug Life
- I'm Gettin' Money
- High 'Til I Die (Thug Life)
- Is It Cool to Fuck
- Fake Ass Bitches
January 1993
- Pour Out a Little Liquor ★
- Time to Get My Drank On (Interlude)
January–February 1993
- Gotta Get Mine
- Definition of a Thug Nigga
February 1993
- Killa
March 1993
- Gangsta Team (March 15)
- Death Around the Corner ✦
- Ready 4 Whatever
- Losin' It
April 1993
- How Long Will They Mourn Me (April 16) ★
May 1993
- Lie to Kick It
- Thug 4 Life
- Faded Shootouts (Outro)
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MR. MIDDLE FINGER / NOTHING 2 LOSE
June – September 1993
June–July 1993
- Bury Me a G (Thug Life Version) ★
- Nothing to Lose
- Hellrazor
- Lord Knows ✦
July 1993
- Thugs Get Lonely Too
July–August 1993
- It Ain't Eazy (Mr. Middle Finger Version)
August 1993
- Mr. Middle Finger
- The Uppercut
September 1993
- Skank Wit U
- Open Fire
- Who Do You Love
- Wonda Why They Call U Bitch
- Shit Don't Stop ★
September 30, 1993
- It Hurts the Most
- Don't Leave
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OUT ON BAIL / CRADLE TO THE GRAVE
October – November 1993
October 1993
- Only Fear of Death
- Temptations (October 26) ✦
- Dear Mama (October 26) ✦
- Runnin' from the Police (October 30)
November 1993
- Out on Bail (November 2)
- Str8 Ballin' (November 2) ★
- Cradle to the Grave ★
- Judgement Day
- Mind of a Bad Boy
November 20, 1993
- Pain
- House of Pain
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R U STILL DOWN?
October 1993 – April 1994
December 1, 1993
- Can't Turn Back
- Jealous Got Me Strapped
December 1993
- R U Still Down?
- Hard on a Nigga (LZ Version)
January 1994
- Peep Game 2 (January 27)
- Where Do We Go From Here? (January 31)
February 1994
- Loyal to the Game (February 4)
- R U Still Down (Raise 'Em Up)
- Runnin' (Memories Version)
March 1994
- Hold On Be Strong
- Fuck the World (Demo) (March 16) ✦
- High 'Til I Die (Solo) (March 19)
- Hennessey
April 1994
- Danger Times (April 6)
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STAY TRUE
May – August 1994
May 1994
- Stay True ★
- Under Pressure ★
- God Bless the Dead (May 18)
- AmeriKKKa Eats Its Young
- Fuck All Y'All (May 17)
June 1994
- I'd Rather Be Your Lover (June 15)
- Thug Style (June 16)
- When I Get Free (June 16)
- We Do This
- 4 Tha Hustlaz
- Let's Get It On
July 1994
- It Ain't Easy (July 26) ✦
August 1994
- Hard on a Nigga (Dat Nigga Daz Version) (August 8)
- P.Y.T. (Playa Young Thug)
- Where Will I Be (August 18)
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F.T.W. / ME AGAINST THE WORLD
August – November 1994
August 1994
- If I Die 2Nite (August 30) ✦
- My Block (August 30)
- Outlaw (August 31) ✦
September 1994
- Throw Your Hands Up (September 6)
- Old School (September 9) ✦
- Dusted 'n' Disgusted (September 10)
- Heavy in the Game (September 10) ✦
- Young Niggaz (September 11) ✦
- Suka 4 Love
- Can U Get Away (September 20) ✦
- So Many Tears (September 22) ✦
- Me Against the World (September 24) ✦
October 1994
- Til My Dyin' Day (Late Night) (October 29)
- Bury Me a G Pt. 2
November 1994
- Enemies with Me
- The Heat (November 30)
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Official Released on 2Pac albums :
★ Released on Thug Life: Volume 1 (1994)
✦ Released on Me Against the World (1995)
Some obvious things (cf my dates of recording page) :
ReplyDeletebury me a g (solo) is July too (same session)
Hopeless is august (played live)
Lord knows is more likely August (still credited to Stretch in July)
R U Still Down (stretch first) is Dec 93 (2pac still in ny)
R U Still Down (Shock g) / Hard on a N is mid January (2Pac in LA)
Pain Remix is also Feb.
Hennessey is feb. - march.
Stay True (fist) is probably late April
Thug Life period was the best 2Pac period in my opinion. Still waiting for unleaked materials of this session
DeleteI agree ! And we miss a lot of material from this period.
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