== 1997- OUTLAWZ - RETRIBUTION ==

  • Sept. 1996 - May 1997 : album entirely recorded after the death of 2Pac.
  • The group liene-up is mainly reduced to four members : only a few songs were recorded before Hussein left the group and Kadafi got killed in November...
  • Released in 2006 as : DJ Fatal presents... Outlawz - Retribution (The Lost Album, Ten Years Later) (Outlawz Records / One Nation Entertainment)
  • Sources : DAT, Demo Tape
 the cover is a mosaic of pictures from various periods :
new picture for Kastro, Noble and Edi (2006 ?)
Outlawz' Immortalz LP picture for Fatal, Napoleon and Kadafi
You have also 2Pac pictured with them in "Hit Em Up" video in the top left,
2Pac with them in his car in summer of 96 (cover of Still I Rise album) 

See Discogs page - Listen to it in Deezer, iTunes, myzuka

  1. Intro *
  2. Komatose feat. Storm
  3. Thug Nation
  4. Soulja's Story pt. 2
  5. What Goes Around, Comes Around (Karma)
  6. Retribution
  7. Still Mournin'  -  (aka Life Goes On Stay Strong)
  8. Bless My Soul feat. Bad Azz & Prince Ital Joe
  9. Novakane
  10. Under Pressure pt. 2 feat. Storm
  11. Pass The Heat feat. Wack Duece & Hussein  -  (aka Money On My Mind)
  12. Angel
  13. Hold On
  14. Stay Awake  -  (aka Did You Pray Today)
  15. Family Pictures feat. Kadafi
  16. In God's Eyes
  17. The Hunger feat. Wack Duece
  18. Mr. Makaveli feat. Kadafi & Hussein
  19. Outro *

    Bonus Tracks 
  20. Yesterday
* Not included in the original demo tape from late 97.
 
Rap – Edi, Kastro, Napoleon, Young Noble, Hussein (11, 17), Kadafi (7, 15, 18), Storm (2, 10)
Producers – Darryl Harper, Daz Dillinger, Hurt-M-Badd, Johnny J, QD3
Chorus – Jewell (8, 12, 13, 17) Val Young (6)
 
Not in the original demo tape :
Mixed and presented by
 – DJ Fatal
Hosted By – Bad Azz (8), Daz Dillinger (9), E.D.I. (1), 2Pac (1, 10, 11, 13, 15, 17), Method Man (7), Young Noble (1)
Voice (Intro) – Malcolm X (14, 16) 
 
But it has had a decent and respectful edition as a mixtape in 2006 (DJ Fatal is discret and just added introduction, conclusion and short hosts between the tracks). On some tracks, you can really recognize the taste of the One Nation and Makaveli times. Thanks for the famous same producers...
 Track 3 "Thug Nation" was supposed to be included in the 2Pac/Outlawz album Ghetto Starz (cf. tracklist War Gamez / Ghetto Starz) but was recorded later in 1997.

Outlawz at its fullest. But...

All the Outlawz are here :
K-Dog aka Kastro
Big Malc aka Edi
Young Hollywood aka Kadafi
Mutah aka Napoleon
Fatal Hussein
Young Noble
Storm

From Thoro Headz (K-Dog & Big Malc, Young Ho) to Young Thugz (with Mutah), to Dramacydal (without Young Ho) to Outlaw Immortalz (with Fatal, Storm & Thug Life) to Lil' Homiez (without Mopreme), to Outlawz (with Young Noble).

Outlawz are NOT Outlaw Immortalz, so there are no Thug Life members : no Mopreme, no Big Syke (who was preparing his solo album at the same period). Only Nutt-So, Street Thugs leader, announced in Ghetto Starz tracklist as a member of the group, and maybe Gonzoe, could have been added to the lineup of the group at a time.

The group recorded a hand of songs just after the death of 2Pac, "Still Mournin'", "Stay Awake", "Under Pressure", "Novakane", "Komatose", "Mr Makaveli" and "Family Pictures" when Death Row more or less shelved Johnny J's Outlawz Troublesome/Secretz of War album (because Johnny J left the label on a discord with Suge Knight). But after Pac's death, the project then called "Ghetto Starz" changed a lot and became "Retribution". But Death Row, like many other projects, never released it... And it could not be due to a lack of quality and selling potential. 

The Outlawz here will never be at this level again. Fatal & Kadafi are still here to give strong Rap delivery. And most of the producing team is the same than on 2Pac's Makaveli album. At that time, it could have been easy to make of this album a huge commercial success (with maybe 2-3 Pac featurings added). That could have changed the destiny of the group. 

TIMELINE

10th of November - death of Yafeu Akiyele Fula

This album in its way to be finished, the death of their mentor, the publishing of Makaveli album... May all these events have make the pressure grow up between Outlawz members and their environment ?

So Yaki has been shot dead. Shot in the hallway of a friend's appartment building... The killer is Rashad Beale, a cousin of Napoleon... Jealousy ? Money, drug, gang affair ? Was Yaki turning to be a 2Pac-a-like paranoic ?

Anyway, after that awful event, the group more or less disbanded for a couple of years. And Death Row instead of releasing this album, will capitalize on the death of 2Pac only. 

Late 97. Outlawz LP. DAT PO775568, PO775569, PO775572

  1. In The Morning (Still Mournin')
  2. Karma (What Goes Around)
  3. Yesterday - not included in Retaliation
  4. In Godz Eyes
  5. Runnin on E
  6. Komatose
  7. Bless My Soul
  8. Retribution
  9. Soldier Story '97
  10. Hold On
  11. Who Do You Believe In ?
  12. Thug Nation
  13. Angel

These three DAT could be from the first half of 97. Tupac featurings were probably removed in order to give them to the posthumous compilations after Afeni Shakur got the rights of her son's material. It's a pity because even if they are not the most bombing 2Pac songs, they could have allow enough exposure for the Outlawz album - instead of songs lost in chaotic tote carry-all double albums on the hype of All Eyez On Me - 2Pac didn't think to publish again a double album.

On the other hand, the album is only made of post-Tupac recordings, so it would have made some rupture of harmony.  

Circa mid 97. Demo Tape (?) / Promo tape (?).

  1. Komatose with Storm
  2. Thug Nation
  3. Soulja's Story pt. 2
  4. What Goes Around, Comes Around
  5. Retribution
  6. Still Mournin'  -  (aka Life Goes On Stay Strong)
  7. Bless My Soul feat. Bad Azz & Prince Ital Joe
  8. Novakane
  9. Under Pressure pt. 2 feat. Storm
  10. Pass The Heat feat. Wack Duece  -  (aka Money On My Mind)
  11. Angel
  12. Hold On
  13. Stay Awake  -  (aka Did You Pray Today)
  14. Family Pictures
  15. In God's Eyes
  16. The Hunger feat. Wack Duece
  17. Mr. Makaveli

The tape tracklist is exactly similar to the DJ Fatal released mixtape, except it does not have intro, outro and interludes from various hosts.





DETAILED TRACKLIST

(Special thanks to Bomb1st members Filla and Dominator for samples credits)

 
01. Intro / DJ Fatal
  • 2006. Not in the original album.
02. Komatose feat. Storm / ?
  • 1996/09/26.
03. Thug Nation / ?
  • 1996/08 (?) - 1997/05/16. The song was supposed to be included in Ghetto Starz album. We don't know if it is the same exact version than the one recorded for it.
04. Soulja's Story pt. 2 / ?
  • 1997/05/18. This song pays respect to 2Pac's song from 2Pacalypse Now where he was rapping with his Soulja pitched voice violent avatar. Here it is presumably Young Noble who is rapping with a pitched voice.
05. What Goes Around, Comes Around (Karma) / ?
  • 1997/11/01.
06. Retribution feat. Val Young / ?
  • 1997/05/11. The concept appears in one of the first Ghetto Starz early tracklist.
07. Still Mournin' (Life Goes On Stay Strong) feat. Kadafi / ?
  • 1996/09/14. The song was apparently recorded the day after the death of Tupac (but he was dying in hospital for six days), what gives that specific sad mood and explains that the song was the first listed in DATs of their album project.
08. Bless My Soul feat. Bad Azz, Prince Ital Joe & Jewell / Daz (?)
  • 1997/01/20 (?) - 07/20-23 (?). Guests and topic make a strong link with Makaveli album. Nothing sure about the date of recording.
09. Novakane / Hurt-M-Badd
  • 1996/09/20 - 12/11 (new mix). The song was initially intended for Gridlock'd Original but was finally leftover.
10. Under Pressure pt. 2 feat. Storm / ? 11. Pass The Heat (aka Money On My Mind) feat. Wack Deuce & Hussein / ?
  • 1997/05/18. Wack Deuce is a rapper from Compton. Hussein who was preparing his first solo album In The Line of Fire came back to L.A. to meet up the group six months after leaving. He recorded that hell good hook with a whole new style.
12. Angel feat. Jewell / ?
  • 1997/05/09.
13. Hold On feat. Jewell / ?
  • 1997/05/09.
14. Stay Awake (Did You Pray Today) feat. Kadafi (intro) & ? (chorus) / ?
  • 1996/09/16.
  • Samples :
    • 2006 addition : Malcolm X - speech
15. Family Pictures feat. Kadafi & ? (chorus) / ?
  • 1996/09/28.
16. In God's Eyes / ?
  • 1996/07/22 - 1997/07/24 (new vocals ?). The first date is the same date than "The Good Die Young" (cf. Ghetto Starz), but it was very probably recorded in 97. The beat is possibly from that early date.
  • Samples :
    • 2006 addition : Malcolm X - speech
17. The Hunger feat. Wack Deuce & Jewell / ?
  • 1997/05/11. This song is inspired by a short lived concept of title for Outlawz Immortalz LP.
18. Mr. Makaveli feat. Kadafi & Hussein / ?
  • 1996/10/01 (?). Last song recorded with Kadafi and Hussein before they leave the group and went to New Jersey where Kadafi got killed...
19. Outro / DJ Fatal
  • 2006. Not in the original album.
 
BONUS TRACKS :
 
20. Yesterday feat. ? (chorus) / ?
  • 1997/11/01. Included in first DATs of the album. Recorded the same day than "What Goes Around, Comes Around".
. Can U Relate feat. Asu / ?
  • 1997 (?). No known date of recording. The song was included in the bootleg Revenge iz Sweet by Dramacydal (tracks recorded in 94-95 before Death Row for a Dramacydal album). But of course this is a later track with Young Noble, Kastro, Napoleon and Edi. With the Asu featuring and the kind of strange sound, it sounds kind a like One Nation. But it is more probably from after Pac's death (Edi saying "Makaveli lives on"). So a Retribution leftover track (or an Asu song).
 

 



 
 
 
 
 

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