Dogg Pound -1995-1996- Dogg Shit / West Coast Aftershock (Death Row Unreleased)

• 1995 - 1996 : sessions for a Dogg Pound second album.
• The project of that second album evolved from "Dogg Shit" in 1995 (like a Dogg Food leftovers/featurings companion) to "West Coast Aftershock" new album in the summer of 96.
• What happened ? Following 2Pac's death, Death Row's team was very affected and Kurupt finally decided to leave. The recordings were dispersed or remixed in various projects : soundtracks, Death Row compilations, Daz' Retaliation, Revenge & Get Back (1998), Daz' R.A.W. (2000), Don't Go 2 Sleep EP (2001), Dillinger & Young Gotti (2001), Tha Dogg Pound's 2002 (2001), Tha Last of Tha Pound (2004), Doggy Bag (2012)...
• Sources : DAT inventory

fanmade cover for the DGC's bootleg

altered image of 2002

### WORK IN PROGRESS... There are no known material sequence for the first part of this project in late 95, which was maybe only in the state of a concept of B-Sides/featurings companion EP. For the second part, we followed the tracklist of the Death Row DAT PO778935 entitled "Tha Dogg Pound 12/15/95 (sic.)" very likely from late '96 early '97. ### 

Chapter 1 : Dogg Shit (1995 Sessions)

1. Don't Stop, Keep Going (Original) feat. Nas ***
2. It's Going Down (Original) feat. Prince Ital Joe & Kevin Vernado
3. Me In Your World (Original) feat. Lady Of Rage **
4. The Name And The Rep (by Daz)
5. Everybody Needs To Slow Down (by Kurupt) **
6. Got My Mind Made Up (Original) feat. Lady of Rage, Method Man, Redman & Inspectah Deck - unleaked / Inspectah's verse edit
7. Can't C Me (DPG Version) feat. George Clinton
8. Jack Move feat. Big Syke & Outlawz ***
9. I'll Do (Original) feat. Kausion
10. Started (by Kurupt) ***
11. N.Y. '87 (Original) feat. Deadly Threat & Soopafly (speaking) **
12. Our Daily Bread (Original) feat. Lady of Rage & Prince Ital Joe
    

Producer - Dr. Dre (7), Daz, Kurupt, Overdose & Soopafly (5). 

Not included tracks :

. Jack Move (Original No Kurupt) feat. Outlawz ------> Thug Life Volume 2
. Initiated (Wind Mix) feat. 2Pac & Outlawz ----> THUG POUND
. N.Y. '87 (Quik Mix) feat. Threat & 2Pac ----> THUG POUND
. Trump Tight (by Kurupt) feat. Big Syke & Kadafi ----> THUG POUND
. Um Dumpin' (by Kurupt) feat. Gonzoe, 2Pac, Scarlo & Nutt-So ----> THUG POUND
. This Life I Lead feat. Gonzoe, 2Pac & Nutt-So ----> THUG POUND
. Don't Stop (Kurupt 2 Verses Mix) feat. 2Pac ----> THUG POUND

Chapter 2 : West Coast Aftershock (second half of '96 : DAT PO778935)

1. Every Single Day ('96 Version) (by Kurupt) feat. Snoop Dogg & Jewell * / **
2. Don't Care What The People Say ***
3. I Roc Mics (Original)
4. Don't Stop ('96 Version) feat. 2Pac *
5. Me In Your World ('96 Version) - Death Row Greatest Hits
6. Because of You Girl (by Daz) feat. Storm, Edi & Kevin Vernado
7. Gangsta Walk feat. Snoop Dogg - Dead Man Walking
8. Crip Wit' Us *
9. U Ain't Tha Homie (Original) feat. Crooked I & Jewell **
10. Roll Wit' Us (Original) (by Daz) - Chronic 2000
11. My System (Original) feat. Tha Mactress - R.A.W.
    Gigolo **
    
12. Living Tha Gangsta Life feat. Xzibit *
    
    Bonus Tracks :
    
    
13. Tremendous Odds
14. Gitta Strippin' (Original)
15. Gangsta Rap (Original)
16. Monique
    
17. Nothin' But The Cavi Hit (Soopafly Remix) feat. Mack 10 - Rhyme & Reason OST
    

Producer - Daz, Kurupt, Soopafly.

 

Not included tracks :

 

. Dogg Pound Criminals (Original) feat. Tray Deee, Soopafly, Bad Azz & Techniec ==> Retaliation, Revenge & Get Back

. It's Going ('96 Version) feat. Prince Ital Joe ==> Retaliation

. Our Daily Bread ('96 Version) feat. Prince Ital Joe ==> Retaliation

. Initiated (No Wind Mix) feat. 2Pac & Outlawz ==> Retaliation

. On Tha Grind ==> R.A.W.  

. If You Want This Pussy (Interlude) ==> R.A.W.

. Beverly Blvd 7pm (live street sounds) ?? - unleaked/other title?? 

. Daz - Don't Try To Play Me Homie ==> Gridlock'd OST

. Kurupt - Loc'd Out Hood ==> Gridlock'd OST

 

* taken from 2002 (Death Row, 2001)

** taken from Doggy Bag (WIDEawake, 2012)

*** taken from Tha Last of Tha Pound (Gangsta Advisory, 2004)

The closest thing that could approach the original Dogg Shit / West Coast Aftershock project is the WIDEawake compilation Doggy Bag. But like all releases from that label, the result is... far from satisfying. Songs were taken from various projects from 93 to 98... Finally, the underestimated Tha Last of Tha Pound presents a set of songs taken more or less from that era of recordings - 95 -, at a time the second Pound album was logically titled "Dogg Shit" (after the food they ate in first album...). Without the arrival of 2Pac at Death Row, we could imagine that Daz and Kurupt would have had a project ready to drop in mid '96.

DETAILED INFORMATION

Chapter I : DOGG SHIT

• "Don't Stop (Remix)" featuring 2Pac has been released in Dogg Pound's 2002 but was probably initially remixed for Thug Pound in early 96. In 2004, Daz released the real original version of the song in Tha Last of Tha Pound, with verses from Nas instead of 2Pac, of course recorded before the "New York, New York" controversy.
• "Can't C Me" was later given to 2Pac for All Eyez On Me, we ignore if there is also a Dr. Dre version which could be from 93-94 for Chronic 2.
• Inspectah Deck's verse cut from "Got My Mind Made Up" has been leaked circa ~2010. It was at the end of the song, Inspectah kind of freestyling whereas the beat was finished (we can still hear the first words in the released song). It is said 2Pac replaced Lady of Rage when the song was given to him And 2Pac and the engineers chose to cut the song at the end of the beat for his All Eyez on Me version.
• "It's Going Down" was initially recorded in the second half of 95, finally released in a very close mix in Retaliation, Revenge and Get Back in 1998.
• "Me In Your World" was recorded in Dec. 95 and edited without Rage in the summer of 96 for the album, finally released in Death Row's Greatest Hits in late 96. The original was released in Doggy Bag (2012).
• "Our Daily Bread" was initially recorded in Dec. - Jan. 96 and was also edited in August of 96, Daz removing Rage... Lady of Rage has been removed of 3 Dogg Pound songs ! There should be some argument between them...
• "Started" is a three verses Kurupt song. In the intro, Daz uses the old nicknames. In his first, Kurupt says '95. Second one was re-used on "Trump Tight (Dump On Site)" very likely recorded for Thug Pound in late December 95. So this song was likely recorded in Autumn 95 before 2Pac gave them their new nicknames.
• "Jackmove" was firstly recorded for Thug Life Volume 2 in December 95 as Daz featuring Outlawz. Kurupt very likely added in February 96, the 27th. 
  
• "I'll Do" was released in a close mix in Supercop soundtrack (in June of 96), maybe to promote the forthcoming Dogg Pound album that Daz was still planning at that time. It features Gonzoe and his group Kausion. Gonzoe will record two or three other songs with Dogg Pound, Nutt-So and 2Pac in early 1996 for Dogg Pound/2Pac's project Thug Pound. 
• "N.Y. '87" was recorded the 14th of December 95 with Threat only. 2Pac and Quik added their part a few days later and the song was maybe consecutively given to Thug Pound.
• "The Name & The Rep" is a Daz solo song where he names himself "Dillinger" : the lyrics will be partially recycled in "Roll Wit' Us (Original)" in late 96 so the song could be from circa first half of '96. 
  

Chapter II : WEST COAST AFTERSHOCK

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Lady of Rage has been removed of 3 Dogg Pound songs : "Me In Your World" and "Our Daily Bread", "Got My Mind Made Up" ! She was kind of put apart of the label when 2Pac came in... The famous original "Blunt Time" which has 2Pac and Rage is still unleaked... Lady of Rage even said once he destroyed her career (what is not true considering that she released a decent album in 97, contrarily to many Death Row artists who totally disappeared after 2Pac's death...).

 

In this second album, we can see that Dogg Pound initially wanted to create a bridge between L.A. and New-York. Unfortunately, the single "New York New York" (Sept. 17, 1995) created an inverted effect, started a huge feud, the biggest and the most violent Hip-Hop clash that ever occurred, just before Suge Knight went again to see 2Pac in prison and make him sign, a definite enemy of the East Coast... And that's why this original East-West album turned into a war album in late 95 early 96 before again becoming a full West Coast album (West Coast Aftershock).

 

Tha Dogg Pound erased the prints of that old east/west project starting in December of 95 by 2Pac recording with them in "NY 87", "Initiated", replacing Nas in "Don't Stop" and eventually "Got My Mind Made Up" (following what Daz and Snoop pretend). Of course, Foxy Brown, Nas friend and Kurupt's future girlfriend, also disappeared but that song is probably more from 96 (after Pac and Nas reconciled during August ?) or even 97 and it means they kept in mind the first idea of an East/West connection in their album.

 

Original photography that was used to make the cover of Tha Last of Tha Pound

A break between two recording sessions

After the releases of All Eyez on Me, the abort of the first Thug Pound project (2Pac seeming to pass from one idea to another very quickly and was not clearly in it after Mopreme being left and Thug Life being ended), the beginning of intense work for Doggfather, after the exile of Kurupt in Philadelphia circa May-June, Dogg Pound started a whole new session in summer of '96, after the release of "I'll Do" in June that could mean a first promo single for the album or the burial of the old project. At the same time, Daz and Kurupt keep on reworking old tracks in order to release them like "NY 87", "Me In Your World", "Our Daily Bread", "It's Going", "Don't Stop"... Maybe Daz also worked on "Initiated" and "This Life I Lead" from Thug Pound... 

 

But like Kurupt said in an interview, Death Row was a question of timeline. When it was the time of Snoop, every produced songs, lyrics, efforts, were for him. Then, it was the Pound. Then 2Pac, then Snoop again... And so many Dogg Pound's efforts from that time were given apart, like for instance "Gigolo" more or less turned into "Groupie" for Snoop Dogg.

Tha Pound & Tha Thug

2Pac and Tha Dogg Pound is not a 1995-1996 story. In early 1993, 2Pac collaborated with Prince Ital Joe ("Thug Life"), Warren G ("My Definition of a Thug", "Lie 2 Kick It") and Nate Dogg ("How Long Will They Mourn Me") for the Original Thug Life project, delayed for sample issues, modified for having been leaked (Natasha Walker heard the Dogg Pound in the studio while recording Doggystyle album listening to her song "Is It Cool 2 Fuck" with 2Pac and Thug Life) and totally shelved because of 2Pac troubles with justice...

In late 93 - early 94, 2Pac gave three songs for Above The Rim soundtrack ("Pain", "Loyal 2 Tha Game" and "Pour Out A Little Liquor") where Dogg Pound also contributed with two of their most famous songs : "Big Pimpin" and "Dogg Pound 4 Life". In the middle of 94, Daz remixed the 2Pac song "Hard on a Nigga" for Murder Was The Case Soundtrack with Snoop giving backing vocals and 2Pac giving a new verse (song finally leftover and released only in 1997 in Gang Related OST). So 2Pac probably recorded directly with Daz and Snoop at that time.

Furthermore, 2Pac and Kurupt have in common to be originated from the East Coast and to have arrived in West Coast around 16, circa 1988. Before them, 2Pac tried to combine East and West in his projects like in his first Thug Life Original  double album concept (West / East) and then in Thug Life Volume One (cf. Volume One sessions) which kept a trace of it. Then like everybody knows, even a few days at the peak of the East-West war reached with his single "Hit 'Em Up", 2Pac started the project One Nation. Exactly at that time, Kurupt recorded his Philly sessions in Philadelphia and two years later he will drop a double album Kuruption ! with one disc subtitled "West Coast" and the other one "East Coast".

In addition to that, we can also notice the influence of 2Pac's style over Daz who progressively took that kind of energetic delivery with one word giving the impression to want to catch and crush the previous one.

 

• Feb. 2 of 1996. DAT : "Dogg Pound remix 2/5/96". PO778846.

1. Do What I Feel (remix) - (Our Only Bread ft Rage)
2. New York (remix) - (unleaked ? clean version ?)
3. Would You Die For Me (I'll Do It)

• Aug. 10 of 1996. DAT : "Work DAT West Coast Aftershock 8/10/96". PO778864.

1. Don't Stop Keep Goin' - (edit Kurupt one verse ?)
2. Dogg Pound Criminals
3. Me & My World - (edit w/o Rage)
4. Beverly Blvd 7pm (live street sounds) - ???

• Oct. 96 (~). DAT "Daz Untitled 9/13/96 session tape". PO314289.

UNKNOWN CCONTENT.

• Aug. - Dec. 96 DAT : "Tha Dogg Pound Disc 1" & "Kurupt & Daz". PO778936 & PO778974

1. Here Hit This
2. Life I Lead
3. Mental
4. 10 Ta Midnight
5. Like That Y'all
6. What Cha About
7. That’s My N
   
   
8. Every Single Day
9. Don’t Care What People Say
10. I Roc Mics
11. Don’t Stop
12. Me And Your Word
13. Crip Wit Me
14. U Aint The Homie
15. Living The Gangsta Life
16. My System

The first part is taken from Aftershock sessions (Kurupt & Philly Mobb). The second part is clearly a tracklist for Dogg Pound LP.

• Dec. 96 (?). DAT : "Tha Dogg Pound 12/15/95". PO778935

1. Every Single Day
2. Don’t Care What The People Say
3. I Roc Mics
4. Don’t Stop - ft 2Pac
5. Me and Your Word - w/o Rage
6. Just Because Of you - ft Storm & Edi
7. Gangsta Walk
8. Crip Wit Me
9. U Aint This Homie
10. Roll Wit Us
11. My System - released in R.A.W.
12. Livin Tha Gangsta Life

These tracks haven't been recorded before Dec. 95 (except maybe "Every Single Day"). We thing there should be a mistake between 95 and 96.

This gives a good pre-feeling of the West Coast Aftershock album.

RECORDINGS TIMELINE :

 

Kurupt - I Don't Bang No More ft Jewell (prod. Overdose) - 93/??/??

Kurupt - Flatline (Original) - 94/05/27

Kurupt - 40's and Bud - 94/05/27

Every Single Day - 94/06/30

DPG/Kurupt : Work DAT - 94/07/16

**Kurupt - Sinays Song / Wildest Dreams ?? - 94/08/22

Kurupt - Flatline (Final) - 94/11/08

Kurupt - Ballad ft Stew - 94/11/14 

Kurupt - Theory of a Bitch - 94/01/17

Kurupt - Where U From (Big Dics Seen In Ya M) - 94/??/??

---------> VIDEO What Would U Do (Clean Version) - 95/02/16

 

**Problem - 95/07/18

Don't Stop (Original) ft Nas - 95/08-10 - 2002

Got My Mind Made Up ft Rage & Deck - 95/08-10

It's Going Down ft Ital Joe - 95/08-12 - Retaliation, Revenge

Started - 95/08-12 - Doggy Bag

Can't C Me (DPG Version) - 95/10/07

2Pac - Secretz of War ft FNF & Kurupt - 95/10/19 - All Eyez on Me

2Pac - Check Out Time ft Kurupt - 95/11/06 - All Eyez on Me

2Pac - Got My Mind Made Up (Edit) - 95/11/06-16 - All Eyez on Me 

Kurupt - Trump Tight ft Syke & Yak - 95/12/14 - Thug Pound

N.Y. '87 ft Threat - 95/12/14 - Doggy Bag

2Pac - Still Ballin' II ft Kurupt - 95/12/18 - Thug Life Volume 2

N.Y. '87 (Quik & Pac added) - 95/12/18-27 - Thug Pound

Initiated (Original) ft 2Pac - 95/12/22 - Thug Pound

Daz - Jack Move (Original) ft Outlawz - 95/12/22 - Thug Life Volume 2

Me In Your World (Original) ft Rage - 95/12/27 - Doggy Bag

LIVE Let's Play house (Soul Train Mix) - 96/01/10

Don't Stop (Long Remix) ft 2Pac - 96/01/13 - Thug Pound

Dumpin' ft 2Pac, Gonzoe & Nutt-So - 96/01/18 - Thug Pound

This Life I Lead ft 2Pac & Gonzoe - 96/01/18 - Thug Pound

New York, New York (Clean) ft Snoop - 96/01/22 - 12''

**New York (Remix) - 96/02/05

Our Daily Bread (Do What I Feel Remix ?) ft Ital Joe & Rage - 96/02/05

Would You Die 4 Me (I'll Do) (Original) ft Kausion - 96/02/05 (?)

Daz - Telephone Conversation - 96/02/09

**Daz - Untitled (The Name & The Rep ??) - 96/02/15

Daz - The Name & The Rep - 96/02/05 ???

Daz - Don't Try To Play Me (Original) - 96/02/15 

Nate Dogg - Puppy Love ft DPG & Snoop - 96/02/15 - G-Funk Classics

Kurupt - DPG 4 Life (These Reasons Remix) - 96/02/21

**Kurupt - Untitled - 96/02/14

 

**Kurupt - Too Much Negative - 96/03/17

**Kurupt - What You Hide From (Original) - 96/03/17 

**Kurupt - Untitled - 96/03/17 

**Daz - Track for Daz (prod. Hurt M Badd) - 96/03/20

**Paper Chase (Underground) - 96/03/22 

Kurupt - Would You Ride ft Snoop - 96/04/06 - From The Vault

Kurupt - Everybody Needs To Slow Down - 96/04/06

**Kurupt - Untitled (Overdose Work DAT) - 96/04/06 

Get On Up (Gangsta Remix) ft Jodeci - 96/04/17

Daz - Me & My Homeboys ft Techniec & Trip Loc - 96/05/19

Kurupt - Locc'd Out Hood - 96/06/06 - Gang Related

**Daz - Time - 96/06/19

Jewell - I Came When You Were Alone (/Kurupt) - 96/06/25 - Gang Related

What Would U Do (Club House Mix) - 96/06/27

 

2Pac - How Do U Want It (Daz Remix) - 96/07/01

I'll Do ft. Kausion (Retail) - 96/07/18 - Supercop OST

------------------ Kurupt - Aftershock sessions in Philly - 96/07-08 -----------------------

Don't Stop (final) ft 2Pac - 96/08/12 (or 19-23) - 2002

Me In Your World (Final w/o Rage) - 96/08/12 - Death Row Greatest

**Beverly Blvd 7pm (live street sounds) - 96/08/12

Tremendous Odds (Beverly Blvd 7pm ??) - 96/??

Criminals ft LBC - 96/08/13-14 - Retaliation, Revenge

Initiated (Final) ft 2Pac & Outlawz - 96/08/13 - Retaliation, Revenge

Don't Try To Play Me (Final) - 96/08/14 - Gridlock'd

Every Single Day (Final) ft ? - 96/08/15

Gigolo (Final Mix) - 96/08/16 - Doggy Bag

If You Want This Pussy (Interlude) - 96/08/16 - R.A.W.

It's Going Down (Final) - 96/08/16-19 - Retaliation, Revenge

Monique - 96/08/18 

Nothing But The Cavi Hit - 96/08/21 - Rhyme & Reason OST

Loc'd Out Hood (Final) - 96/08/22 - Gang Related

I Don't Care What The People Say (Final) - 96/08/23 - Doggy Bag

Our Daily Bread Final) - 96/08/23 - Retaliation, Revenge

 

Oct. - Dec. 96 - first half of 97

 

Gangsta Walk

I Roc Mics
Daz - Because of You Girl ft Outlawz
Crip Wit Me
U Aint This Homie
Roll Wit Us - Chronic 2000
My System ft Mactress - R.A.W.
Livin Tha Gangsta Life

Daz - Way Too Major ft Tray Deee - 97/04/07-08 - Gang Related

Kurupt - Hollywood Robbery ft Snoop & The Gang - 97/04/07-08 - Gang Related

Daz - Save A Life ft Ital Joe - 97/07/07 - Doggy Bag

Daz - Daz & Kurupt (Cut) - 97/07/27 

Kevin Vernado - Ain't No Sunshine (We R Covered) (prod. Daz) - 97/07/27

Daz - Retaliation, Revenge (Final) - 97/12/11 - Retaliation, Revenge

Daz - In California - 97/12/16 - Retaliation, Revenge

Daz - It Might Sound Crazy - 98/03/27 - Retaliation, Revenge

Daz - I Might Sound Crazy (Remix) - 98/06/09

Daz - Because of U Girl (Remix) - 98/08/17 - Chronic 2000

Daz - Roll Wit Us (w Kurupt) - 99/03/03 - 2002

Daz - Gangsta Rap (Final) ft Crooked I - 00/02/14 - 2002