Mar 23, 2020

2Pac -1997- R U Still Down ? [Remember Me] (Amaru / Interscope)

  • 1997, November 25.
  • First totally posthumous project.
  • Compilation very likely inspired by a real project of compilation of leftover tracks 2Pac had when he was in prison in 95, eventually titled R U Still Down / When I Get Free (Lost Track 1992-1996), cf. R U Still Down '95 (Lost Tracks).
  • Source : Discogs page.


 
Listen to the album in YouTube or get it here and there

CD 1 :
  1. Redemption
  2. Open Fire 
  3. R U Still Down ? (Remember Me) 
  4. Hellrazor (Remix)
  5. Thug Style (Remix) 
  6. Where Do We Go From Here (Interlude) feat. Y?N-Vee 
  7. I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto (Remake) *
  8. Nothing To Lose
  9. I'm Gettin' Money (Remix) *
  10. Lie To Kick It feat. Richie Rich (Remake) *
  11. Fuck All Y'all (Remix)
  12. Let Them Thangs Go (Remix)
  13. Definition Of A Thug Nigga 

CD 2 :
  1. Ready 4 Whatever feat. Big Syke 
  2. When I Get Free (Remake)
  3. Hold On Be Strong
  4. I'm Losin' It (Remix) feat. Big Syke & Spice 1
  5. Fake Ass Bitches (Remix) *
  6. Do For Love (Remix) feat. Eric Williams (Blackstreet) *
  7. Enemies With Me (Remix) feat. Outlawz
  8. Nothin But Love feat. Dave Hollister (Blackstreet)
  9. 16 On Death Row (Remix) *
  10. I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto (Hip-Hop Version) feat. Maxee
  11. When I Get Free II  
  12. Black Starry Night (Interlude)
  13. Only Fear Of Death
  • Original Producers - Johnny J (1.9?, 2.1, 2.5), Tony Pizarro (1.3, 1.6 ?, 1.8?), Bread & Water (2.11), DJ Daryl (2.8, 2.12), Warren G (1.10, 1.13), Live Squad & Duane Nettlesbey (1.6?, 1.8, 2.3, 2.13), Akshun (1.2), Mike Mosley (1.9?), DJ Choo (2.3)
  • New Producers - We Got Kidz & Ricky Rouse (1.1, 1.5, 1.11, 1.12, 2.2, 2.7, 2.9), Soulshock & Karlin (1.7, 2.6, 2.10), Tony Pizarro & Def Jef (2.4), Mike Mosley (1.9?), QD3 (1.4) 

portrait by Ramiro Fauve, in a Van Gogh style
2Pac was a great fan of the Dutch painter who shot himself to death
whose last words were : "Sadness will last forever" 

1997, Afeni Shakur chose this symbolic title : R U Still Down 

Released about one year after Killuminati, The 7th Day Theory (giving some reality to Tupac's black Jesus resurrection fantasy), this first posthumous compilation was titled following the name of a song produced by Shock G in December 93 and still unreleased, speaking about the rough fall of the media critics towards him after the two justice cases (for having shot at two drunk off duty cops harassing a black man during the Halloween night in 93 and of for having let a girl named Ayanna Jackson being sexually assaulted in his hotel room the 18th of November). The 21st of November, the charges for rape being confirmed, 2Pac says to the medias :

Merry Christmas & Thanks 4 destroying everything I've ever worked for.

The "R U Still Down" version included here is a new version from March of 1994, following many trials and notably a sentence of 15 days given to him the 10th of March for having assaulted the Hughes Brothers in March 93 (because he was fired from Menace II Society cast).

I wrote this for my critics and my enemies
Last year ya used to love me, huh, remember me
Now ya hate me with a passion...
("R U Still Down", verse 3)

The released version emphasizes on "remember me" lyric, giving a real impression that Tupac is speaking to us about his own death (and not about the fact medias destroyed his reputation). But "R U Still Down" is also the title of a real album project Tupac had in 1994 and again in 1995. Firstly, it was a short lived title for an anticipated sequence for his third solo album (Me Against the World) between Dec. and March of '94 (from the moment he recorded the song with Shock G), between Out on Bail in the end of 93 and Stay True in Spring of 94. Then when 2Pac went in jail, and after his 3rd solo album was released, he and Interscope were thinking about a compilation of unreleased tracks from 1993-1994 and the title "R U Still Down" came back alongside "When I Get Free (1992-1996 Lost Trax)".

 
Primary ambitions of Amaru publishing were high and respectable.

Thug Life / Me Against The World leftovers fair compilation + Strictly 4 my N... irrelevant remixed tracks

It seems that for her first project, Afeni Shakur decided to give form to this project of compilation 2Pac had in prison but didn't release because he was freed from jail by getting a record deal for three albums with Death Row. Even if one of the planned title mentions "1992", there was in fact originally no 1992 tracks planned to be included, except "When I Get Free" and "Sucka 4 Love (Do 4 Love)" which were re-recorded songs and not the 1992 versions. And no doubt that it is the main mistake of this first posthumous compilation...

Except "When I Get Free" with Souljah pitched voice (and "Nothing But Love", already available as a b-side), all 1992 songs recorded for Troublesome / Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z are clearly not in their place here. Voice and style of 2Pac were very different, closer to his original Digital Underground funk vibe. All remixed songs of that time are failures for the simple reason that the producers try to give a more typical mature 2Pac vibe.

The biggest failure is of course the remixed version of "I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto". Even if the first mix stays close to the original, we don't really understand why they didn't just re-release the original version of the song published in Keep Ya Head Up 12'' b-side, like they made for "Nothing But Love" or "Definition of a Thug Nigga". Soulshock & Karlin who produced "Me Against The World" and "Old School" for 2Pac (and some songs for Dramacydal shelved album), are a relevant choice for producing/remixing 2Pac's 94 songs, but maybe not for old 1992 songs.

On the other hand, their remix of Moe-Z produced "Do 4 Love", still close to the original, is a huge success and even an improvement of the original... And even the presence of Eric Williams of Blackstreet at the chorus instead of G-Money stays relevant because 2Pac had worked a lot with another Blackstreet member Dave Hollister (here in "Nothing But Love"), and will work in summer of 96 with Aaron Hall (ex-partner of Blackstreet's leader Teddy Riley in his first group Guy), for "Toss It Up".


QD3, We Got Kidz & Ricky Rouse : a discrete touch of Death Row's vibe ?

Out of these 1992 wrong moves, most of the compilation clearly tries to respect the original 93-94 songs 2Pac recorded. Many songs sound almost untouched (maybe just a final mix or just a clean sound) or the original song seems to have been kind of finalized by the original producers (Johnny J, Warren G or Mike Mosley (?)...) or by We Got Kidz (group of musician who replay the planned samples). Most of the remixes try to stay close to the original, keeping many elements of the beat (like "16 on Death Row").
 
We Got Kidz was a mysterious name. The fact that they are associated to Ricky Rouse who was a musician for live instrumentation in Death Row in many songs while 2Pac was recording for the label, that QD3 (Quincy Jones Jr.) also worked in Death Row for 2Pac, and that their work here is mainly instrumentation, could indicate that they are an instrumentation team, gathered for the occasion, maybe around some guys already together in Death Row, and that they were in charge for an important part of this compilation. By entrusting the compilation to them, maybe Afeni Shakur tried to make these old 92-94 sound more like the successful 96 Death Row album. 
 
Anyway, it was a really good way to clear the original samples like Bob Marley's "No More Troubles" without paying too much... A pity that they didn't use that strategy for more songs and in the next posthumous compilations. If they clearly missed remixes of "Let the Thangs Go", "Fuck All Y'All", "Enemies With Me", too far from the original, their work in "Thug Style" and "Fake Ass Bitches" is great. The other great remix is clearly "Hell Razor" by Quincy Jones' son QD3.

DETAILED TRACKLIST

(Special thanks to Bomb1st members Filla and Dominator for samples credits)

DISC ONE

01. Redemption (Intro) / We Got Kidz, Ricky Rouse 
  • (?) - 1997 (music). We have no idea about how this track was created, but the instrumentation is a 1997 thing by Ricky Rouse & We Got Kidz. Maybe a DJ is among the group and put together elements taken here and there.
02. Open Fire / Akshun 
03. R U Still Down ? (Remember Me) / Tony Pizarro
  • 1993/12 - 1994/03 (new recording, new verse, new beat). Also known as "Raise Em Up Remix" in 2Pac's handwritten tracklist "Me Against The World/Thug Life/Exodus EP & B-Sides" (cf. Stay True / Honor Among Thugz). Straight from the unreleased vault : it seems the song was absolutely retouched (it was leaked in this form in the early Makaveli bootlegs in 1997-1998). This version has a totally different music from the original Shock G produced version (6'). It has a new 3rd verse and doesn't have the first one. It has been said that this second version could have been recorded because Shock G and Tupac had a little argument in the beginning of 94. More surely it was recorded as a B-side for a single of the album.
  • Samples : 
    • Curtis Mayfield & Fishbone - "He's a Fly Guy" (bassline interpolation)
4. Hellrazor (Remix) feat. Stretch (chorus) & Val Young (chorus) / Live Squad REMIXED by QD3
  • 1993/12 - 1997 (remix, Val Young added). The song was recorded for R U Still Down '94, with maybe two verses from the early concept song titled "Dear Lord" intended for Mr Middle Finger project, still unleaked or unrecorded. Tony Pizarro will give a remix of the song for Stay True project. This is a fair remix that clearly tries to respect the original vibe. QD3 gave a blink by sampling the song he produced for Gang Related soundtrack for J-Flexx and the Realest aka 2Pac copycat in one of his first act (under his first nickname Tenkamenin). Stretch vocals are from the original Live Squad version, Val Young vocals have been added in 97.
  • Sample :  
5. Thug Style (Remix) / Bread & Water REMIXED by We Got Kidz, Ricky Rouse
6. Where Do We Go From Here (Interlude) feat. Y?N-Vee / 2Pac & Duane Nettlesbey (?), Tony Pizarro (?)
  • 1994/01. The song was initially recorded for R U Still Down '94 original project. It was then included in Exodus compilation project (cf. Honor Among Thugz) and then in Pre-Death Row compilation. This beat will be reused in late 95 for the song "What's Next", produced by Johnny J, featuring Thug Life, but the song is there said produced by Tony Pizarro... The sample was presumably an original idea of 2Pac, working with the help of Interscope engineers Duane Nettlesbey or Norman Whitfield, er eventually already Tony Pizarro.
  • Samples : 
7. I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto (Remix) / Lay Law REMIXED by Soulshock & Karlin
  • 1992/05 - 1997 (remix). The song was originally recorded for the unreleased Troublesome 21 album. The song was then released in its original form as a b-side for Keep Ya Head Up 12'' (1993). Strangely, 2Pac recycled in this song half part of "Changes" 3rd verse, a song he recorded five months earlier (the 25th of December of 1991, cf. 2Pacalypse II).
  • Samples :  
8. Nothing To Lose feat. Natasha Walker / 2Pac & Live Squad, Duane Nettlesbey REMIXED By Tony Pizarro (?)
  • 1993/11 (Pac's take) - 1994 (?) (new mix by Duane or Pizarro) - 1997 (new mixdown ?).  The song was firstly recorded for Mr Middle Finger project (only snippet leaked), then 2Pac very likely recorded new vocals in mid November for Out On Bail album. Duane Nettlesbey possibly made another version for R U Still Down '94, and then Tony Pizarro made a remix with another singer for Stay True. It seems 2Pac wanted his friend Natasha on the track, so a new mix was possibly made for F.T.W. (Fuck The World) - unless they took back the Duane version - and it was included in Pre-Death Row compilation in 95. This mix could be the lost Duane's version, an alternate mix made by Tony Pizarro in Autumn 94, or a new mix made specifically for the posthumous compilation...
  • Samples : 
    • Mica Paris - "I Wanna Hold on to You" (drumline/melody)
    • Ice Cube - "Summer Vacation" (vocals : "my homie got shot he's a goner, black")
    • Ice Cube - "Us" (vocals : "That's why I got gang related rhymes")
    • The D.O.C. & N.W.A. - "The Grand Finale" (vocals : "I got robbed when I came to Cali)
9. I'm Gettin' Money (Remix) / Johnny J (?), Stretch (?) or Mike Mosley (?) REMIXED by Mike Mosley & Natures Fynest
  • 1993/01 (~) - 1997 (remix). The song was one of the first record of the early Thug Life Original sessions (cf. Thug Life Demo). It was then included in Thug Life Original concept shelved album (but that mix unleaked could be different). Then 2Pac re-used the lyrics of it for "Str8 Ballin" (cf. Out On Bail) finally released in Thug Life : Volume 1. The original is said produced by Mike Mosley but it could be more likely a Johnny J beat or a Stretch's one. This remix stays close to the original with a similar sample.
10. Lie To Kick It (Remix) feat. Richie Rich / Warren G REMIXED by Warren G
  • 1993/05 - 1997 (remix). Originally recorded for Thug Life Original concept shelved album. Warren G tried to remake or finalize the original song whose beat was given to Snoop Dogg for "Gz & Hustlas" for Doggystyle. 2Pac and Richie Rich also recorded an unleaked or unfinished song and a freestyle both known under the title of "Animosity" (cf. Thug Life Original).
  • Samples : 

11. Fuck All Y'all (Remix) / 2Pac & Duane Nettlesbey REMIXED by We Got Kidz, Ricky Rouse
  • 1994/05 (~) - 1997 (remix). The song was recorded by 2Pac freshly freed from county jail after 10 days the 17th of May (but it could be a little bit before...). Duane told the story of 2Pac entering the studio, writing down a text for the planned George Benson's beat he was programming, and throwing surprisingly his first words : "fuck all y'all !".  The song was eventually reworked by Tony Pizarro for Stay True. This remix is completely different from the original, but We Got Kidz and Ricky Rouse tried to keep the same peaceful and ironic vibe of the original. That original Benson's sample was very likely loved by 2Pac who very probably asked Johnny J to reuse it for "He Vs. She" in Thug Life Volume 2.
  • Samples : 
    • Original sample : George Benson - "Breezin'" (melody) 
    • Geto Boys - "Street Life" (vocals : "I thought I had friends but i ain't got no fuckin friends")
12. Let Them Thangs Go (Remix) / DJ Daryl REMIXED by We Got Kidz, Ricky Rouse, Quimmy Quim
13. Definition Of A Thug Nigga / Warren G & 2Pac
DISC TWO

01. Ready 4 Whatever feat. Big Syke / Johnny J
  • 1993/04. Originally recorded for Thug Life Original then included in early versions of Volume 1 (cf. Honor Among Thugz) and in Makaveli 6 bootleg. The original intro of the song was also used by Tony Pizarro as an interlude ("No justice, no peace-lude") for Stay True project.
  • Samples :  
    • Gil Scott-Heron & Brian Jackson - "1980" (melody)
02. When I Get Free (Remake) / Lay Low REMADE by We Got Kidz, Ricky Rouse 
  • 1992/03 (~) - 1997 (remake). The song was recorded for 2Pacalypse II / Troublesome 21 in 1992 as a follow-up to "Soulja's Story" (cf. 2Pacalypse Now). Like on that one, 2Pac altered his voice by pitching it, in order to incarnate his alternate demonic personality named Soulja, a typical gangster no faith no god alter ego who ended up in prison in the first episode. Nos he's in cell, waiting to be freed and thinking about a violent revenge. This remake is very similar to the original but the original Bob Marley sample was probably replayed live by We Got Kidz.
  • Samples : 
    03. Hold On Be Strong feat. Stretch (chorus) / Stretch & Duane Nettlesbey, DJ Choo (scratch)
    04. I'm Losin It (Remix) feat. Big Syke & Spice 1 / Johnny J REMIXED by Tony Pizarro, Def Jef, Levant Marcus
    • 1993/04 - 1997 (remix). Remixed from an original version intended to be in Thug Life Original scrapped album, which was also included in original Volume 1 soundtrack project (cf. Honor Among Thugz). Def Jef is a rapper who released two conscious solo albums in 1989 and 1991 and was the main producer of Bo$$ album in 1993 (cf. Born Gangstas).
    05. Fake Ass Bitches (Remake) feat. Natasha Walker (talking) & Rated R (hook) / Johnny J REMIXED by We Got Kidz
    • 1993/01 (~) - 11 (~) (2Pac's speeches added) - 1997 (remake). Originally recorded for Thug Life Original Concept album (cf.  Thug Life Demo / Thug Life Original). It shortly appears in Out On Bail sequence before being re-recorded by Nic Nam of Y?N-Vee with 2Pac speaking between the verses instead of Natasha Walker (cf. Honor Among Thugz). This remix recycles many elements of the original versions and combines original vocals with 2Pac new speeches from the second version.
    06. Do For Love (Remix) feat. Eric Williams (Blackstreet) / Moe-Z REMIXED by Karlin, Soulshock
    • 1994/10 (~) - 1997 (remake). This remix uses the song "Sucka 4 Love" from late 1994 recorded for F.T.W. (Fuck The World), not the 1992 early song recorded during 2Pacalypse Now early sessions (cf. Tales of a 90's N.I.G.G.A.). The music stays very close to the original but the original singer G-Money (Moe-Z's friend) is here replaced by Eric Williams. This choice is not totally disconnected to history because 2Pac used to work with Dave Hollister in 91-93, who was also a member of Blackstreet. He also worked with Aaron Hall in 96, member of Guy with Teddy Riley who founded Blackstreet and invited him at a time to be with the group. On the other hand, the song 2Pac recorded with Aaron Hall in 96 was a clear diss/pastiche towards Blackstreet...
    • Samples :
    07. Enemies With Me (Remix) feat. Outlawz / Live Squad REMIXED by We Got Kidz, Ricky Rouse
    • 1994/11 - 1997 (remix). Recorded for Young Thugs EP / Dramacydal with Live Squad and Sh'Killa as featured artists. The song then appears in many early Euthanasia / All Eyez On Me tracklists (cf. When I Get Free), later in Outlawz "Euthanasia" tracklist (cf. Immortalz) but seems to have not been re-recorded nor remixed at that period in Death Row (even if there are some OG vibe floating in).
    08. Nothin But Love feat. Dave "The Black Angel" Hollister / 2Pac & DJ Daryl
    • 1992/03 (~). Released in I Get Around 12'' (1993). The song was firstly intended to be released in Troublesome 21 scrapped album in 1992. 2Pac already had worked with Dave Hollister in 91 for "Brenda's Got A Baby", cf. 2Pacalypse Now. But their most famous collaboration was onto "Keep Ya Head Up" recorded around the same time of March 92.
    • Samples :  
    09. 16 On Death Row (Remix) / DJ Daryl REMIXED By Ricky Rouse
    • 1992/02 (~) - 1997 (remix). Initially recorded for 2Pacalypse II / Troublesome 21. This remix keeps many elements of the original but the synthé thing giving a live instrumentation feeling is not very welcome and distort the original dark mood of the song.
    10. I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto (Hip-Hop Version) feat. Maxee / Lay Law REMIXED by Soulshock & Karlin
    • 1992/05 - 1997 (remix). Difficult to understand the choice of this second remix particularly irrelevant.
    • Samples :  
    11. When I Get Free II feat. Kadafi (chorus) / Bread & Water
    12. Black Starry Night (Interlude) / DJ Daryl
    • 1992/01-03 (~). Supposedly recorded for 2Pacalypse II / Troublesome 21. Also known as "Against All Odds (interlude)". Some say there could be another version with Above The Law and Richie Rich, or it was planned but never recorded.
    • Samples
    13. Only Fear Of Death / Live Squad & Duane Nettlesbey
    • 1993/10. Recorded right after the death of Mental Illness (member of Evil Minded Gangsta, the first group of Big Syke, cf. All Hell Breakin' Loose), it was then in all Me Against The World sequences :  Out On Bail, slightly clean in R U Still Down '94, remixed in a short version by Tony Pizarro for Stay True (also included in Pre-Death Row compilation sequence). This retail mix is very close to the original.
    • Samples : 
      • Gabor Szabo - "Breezin" (melody)
      • Detroit Emeralds - "You're Getting A Little Too Smart" (drums)
      • ---not sure---Lafayette Afro Rock Band - "Hihache" (drums ?)
      • Mental Illness & Evil Mind Gangstas - "Livin' In The Edge" (vocals : "my only fear of death is coming back, reincarnated")
      • Thug Life - "Shit Don't Stop (Rough Mix)" (unleaked) (vocals : "them ghetto niggaz is a full")

    8 comments:

    1. Excluded 1992 recorded tracks and keep 1993/1994 with its original recorded form in a high CD quality will be more accepted to me and made sense if it was released this way.

      R U Still Down? '94 (Original Version Album) :-

      ▪️CD1:
      1.Open Fire (prod. By Akshun)
      2.R U Still Down ? (Original 1st Version) (prod. By Shock G)
      3.Hellrazor (prod. By Live Squad)
      4.Thug Style (prod. By Bread & Water)
      5.Nothing To Lose (prod. By 2Pac, Live Squad)
      6.I'm Gettin' Money (prod. by Mike Mosley)
      7.Lie To Kick It (prod. By Warren G)
      8.Fuck All Y'all (prod. By 2Pac & Duane)
      9.Definition Of A Thug Nigga (prod. By Warren G & 2Pac)

      ▪️CD2:
      1.Ready 4 Whatever (prod. By Johnny J)
      2.Hold On Be Strong (prod. By Choo)
      3.I'm Losin It (prod. By Johnny J)
      4.Fake Ass Bitches (prod. By Johnny J)
      5.Do For Love (prod. By Moe-Z)
      6.Enemies With Me (prod. By Live Squad)
      7.When I Get Free II (prod. By Bread & Water)
      8.Only Fear Of Death (prod. By Live Squad & Duane Nettlesbey)
      9.R U Still Down ? (Raise Em Up) (prod. Tony Pizarro)

      What do you think?!

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      1. Oh yes I totally agree with you on that ! R U Still Down would have been a better album restricted to 93/94 tracks ! But, I don't think they needed to keep any original. I think they could have given all the finalmixdown / remix work to Ricky Rouse/QD3 team (replaying live many elements). It would have made a coherent vibe.

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    2. Don't get confused, R U Still Down 94 is a Me Against The World sequence with "Temptations", "Dear Mama (Original)", "Hard on a N...", "Death Around The Corner", "Lord Knows", "R U Still Down", "Bury Me A G", "Str8 Ballin"...
      R U Still Down '95 is the compilation project Afeni tried to complete. Yes your selection can be good. But we could add many other songs to it or separate one disc Thug Life / one disc 2Pac solo...

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      1. OK in this case let us exclude tracks that used on official albums and keep (R U Still Down '95 Album) like this 2 Discs which is sounds fair plus bonus disc unused tracks from Thug Life demo :-

        ▪️CD1:-
        1.Open Fire
        2.R U Still Down?
        3.Bury Me a G
        4.Hellrazor
        5.Nothing 2 Lose
        6.Thugz Get Lonely Too
        7.The Uppercut
        8.Who Do You Love
        9.Wonda Why They Call U Bitch '94
        10.Out On Bail
        11.Pain
        12.My Only Fear of Death
        13.Peep Game 2
        14.Can’t Turn Back
        15.Hard On a Nigga

        ▪️CD2:
        1.R U Still Down (Raise Em Up)
        2.Hold On Be Strong
        3.High Till I Die (Solo Version)
        4.Loyal to the Game
        5.Hurts The Most *
        6.God Bless the Dead
        7.Phuck All Y'all
        8.Thug Style
        9.Suck 4 Luv
        10.Make Enemies With Me
        11.When I Get Free II
        12.My Block
        13.Throw Your Hands Up
        14.Hard On a Nigga (Daz Version)

        Maybe could be used as bonus tracks :
        Runnin From The Police
        Amerkkka Eats It's Young

        ▪️Bonus 3rd CD: Thug Life leftovers :-

        1.Niggas in the Pen
        2.Thug Life
        3.Fake Ass Bitches
        4.I’m Gettin’ Money
        5.High ‘Til I Die (Thug Life Version)
        6.Is It Cool to Fuck
        7.Definition of a Thug Nigga
        8.Losin’ It
        9.Ready 4 Whatever
        10.Lie to Kick It
        11.Thug 4 Life (bonus track)

        Now how it sounds?

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      2. Makaveli 6 bootleg was probably a group of tracks considered for a Thug Life leftovers compilation (what could have made a Volume 2 if 2Pac would have stayed in prison). Pain, Can't Turn Back, Hard on a N, Phuck All Y'All, Thug Style, Throw Ya Hand are in it with Fake Ass Bitches (YNV), Losin It, Ready 4 Whatever... and Anotha Jack, Out Da Gutta, Thug Bitch...
        Of course, you try to gather non-album songs... You can make a chronological order (interesting to notice the evolution, but not well sequenced)... You can follow a Pre-Death Row compilation tracklist ? or the Exodus tracklist ?

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    3. I don't really understand your point.. Hard on a N, Throw ya hands, my block, god bless the dead, loyal to the game, high til i die, pain have been perfectly released...
      Why do you want to exclude some original tracks and not the other ?
      "Wonda Why They Call U B(original)" is a totally different recording... But "Dear Mama (Scratch Chorus)" for instance is very different too and totally deserves a release... Nothing To Lose has at least 5 original and different versions, mixes... Lord knows has many too. Temptations replay is way different as well... Str8 Ballin has various vocals takes... Why do you want to keep both versions. Of R u still down, hard on a n and not both Hell Razor, all thugz get lonely... ? R U still Down Remember Me has very fair final mixdown too.
      I understand you like to make your homemade selection. Ok with that.
      But the best for me is to listen to the original songs in the original context, close to what 2Pac wanted, among the other original songs from the same time, same studios, same vibe, same mind.

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      1. It is just a personal attempts as per what you said and you right I like to make my personal selection. Thank you for your reply I have learn a lot from you on this page. My favorite 2pac page. I really appreciate your efforts. Respect 🫡

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      2. Sorry, I do understand you of course. But how could i criticize your taste of compilation ? In your compilation, you also forgot 2Pac/Young Thug songs... See, it is not 3 but 4, 5, 6 discs. I have 10 ! from Thug Life Demo to Dramacydal...
        Thank you for your comment ! A pleasure to answer.

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